Natalie Brunell is joined by Michael Saylor, Executive Chairman of Strategy ($MSTR) and arguably the most prominent Bitcoin advocate, for a compelling discussion on corporate, retal & U.S. Bitcoin adoption.

Topics include:
- Why Zombie corporations are embracing Bitcoin
- The promise of Bitcoin for all corporations and business
- Market uncertainty, macro headwinds, and why Bitcoin is the solution
- How to remain calm during market chaos
- Innovative financial instruments and the latest Strategy product offerings, $STRF and $STRK
- What has surprised Saylor most about the U.S. warming to Bitcoin
- How average wage-earner can 100x their money
- Why Bitcoin’s price isn’t closer to $200k
- Michael’s latest price prediction
- The “secret of Bitcoin”
And much more.

This insightful conversation offers a comprehensive look at why Bitcoin is emerging as a strategic imperative for corporations and a cornerstone of the future financial system. As a bonus, Saylor shares personal advice that could prove to be life-changing.

Guest Bio: Michael J. Saylor is an American entrepreneur and Executive Chairman of Strategy (formerly MicroStrategy), a business intelligence firm he co-founded in 1989. A graduate of MIT, Saylor is renowned for transforming his company into the largest corporate holder of Bitcoin, with holdings exceeding 500,000 BTC as of 2025.

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*IN THIS COIN STORIES EPISODE*
00:00 Era of corporate Bitcoin treasury strategy
02:48 The conventional corporate playbook
03:32 Treasury reserve asset options
03:57 Bitwise Investments
04:25 Bitdeer Technologies Group
04:48 Bitcoin 2025 Vegas - Women of Bitcoin Brunch
04:58 Macro Headwinds and Financial Market Uncertainty
06:15 The problem with being businesses being decapitalized
07:25 Bitcoin’s collateral advantage
08:56 Best way to 100x your money
11:29 Saylor’s greatest compliment
11:55 Casa
12:24 Bitkey
12:44 The Bitcoin Way
13:06 Coinkite - securing your Bitcoin
13:22 Speed Wallet
13:37 New Strategy product offerings explained
15:39 Innovative financial instruments & BitBonds
17:05 Bitcoin “The Sucrose of Finance”
17:28 U.S. Bitcoin adoption
18:37 Why isn’t Bitcoin’s price higher than $100k?
19:55 Calm during financial market chaos
21:17 Bitcoin in times of macro panic
24:00 Strategy (Microstrategy performance)
26:16 The “Secret of Bitcoin”

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Producer: Aron Bender https://www.linkedin.com/in/aron-bender/
Editor: Silas Foley

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